DomainSherpa Review – January 2, 2025 – Happy New Year
DomainSherpa Review is the flagship show on the DomainSherpa Network where we get into the minds of successful domain name investors – who we call Sherpas – and talk about the value of domain names. By listening to the Sherpas, we expand our knowledge and understanding so that we can become more successful domain investors ourselves.
JT is joined by Shane, Josh, Jen, Braden, and Billy, and in this episode:
– Happy Holidays and Happy New Year!
– The Sherpas skip The Domain Game and spread some holiday cheer and domain knowledge, highlighting some of what happened in the domain space in 2024.
– They review a list of domains about to come up for auction on NameJet.com, including Crusader.com, IPOP.com, SparklingWater.com, and TJ.net.
– The Sherpas also talk about what they are expecting in 2025 for domains.
– Also, DomainSherpa is now integrating with Muse.ai for episode transcripts and an AI-driven video player to easily look for topics, words, phrases, etc., and jump to the points in the video where they occur. Let us know your feedback!
– Plus all DomainSherpa podcasts are now up on our YouTube channel at DS.tv, and much more!
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Episode Transcript
[0:00] Hi, everyone. Welcome to Domain Sherpa. Happy holidays and happy new year. Thank you for tuning in to the podcast with the best domain name and digital asset content in the world. Today, we’ve got our Domain Sherpa 2024 holiday show with Jen, Shane, Braden, Josh, and Billy. And this is where we spread some holiday cheer and some domain knowledge. We highlight some of the things we saw in 2024 and what we’re expecting as we ride into 2025. We also get into the name check in a jet segment. We review a list of domains coming up for auction, including crusader.com ipop.com sparklingwater.com and tj.net and remember if you’re listening to the audio version of this podcast you can also watch the video version at domain sherpa.com and on our youtube channel at ds.tv you can also listen to the shows on apple and spotify and other podcast platforms as well so please make sure to hit the like button and the subscribe button and all that good stuff everywhere that you can and help domain sherpa grow the pie we also integrate our shows with Muse.ai, which provides search functionality for the shows and transcripts as well. So definitely check all that out. And huge, huge shout out to DNWE, short for Domain Name Wholesale Exchange. It’s a trading platform designed specifically for domain investors, streamlining the process of buying and selling domain names to make it quicker and easier. With a community of over 3,500 investors, DNWE enhances market liquidity, facilitating more efficient transactions with standard domain listings, reverse auctions, standard auctions, and soon to be added portfolio auctions, including traffic portfolios.
[1:25] DNWE is part of EW3N, a family-run digital asset investment company based in London, England, that also operates DomainManage.com, which is a global sales platform, and Brandable.uk, which is a marketplace for UK and co.uk domain names. And also just big, big shout out for the scavenger hunt that they did this year that was a ton of fun and was a great way to kick off our sponsorship with them. So very grateful for them in 2024 and excited to partner with them continuing to 2025. And also big shout out to Unstoppable Domain, The only ICANN accredited registrar that lets you trade DNS domains on chain and access crypto investors with 3% commissions at cost renewals and hundreds of resellers soon to be integrated. They’re a cutting edge marketplace you need to know about and use to get more sales and keep your costs down. And for domainers with large portfolios, go ahead and email Brady at unstoppable domains dot com and see if you qualify for the free transfer in promo. And last but certainly not least, shout out to our own business, Media Options, the number one domain brokerage in the world. Find out more at mediaoptions.com, where you can also sign up for our newsletter for the best domain names and domain opportunities available in the market every week, and also featuring key insights and other helpful information related to branding, naming, and of course, domain investing. With that, it’s now time to get into this festive episode of Domain Sherpa, where all roads lead to domains. Happy holidays and happy new year.
[2:41] Music.
[3:02] What’s up, Sherpa Network? Happy holidays and happy new year. I just had to cut off all the off-camera chatter, B-Ramal, just so we could get this show actually moving. Let’s go. It is the end of 2024, and it is that time of year. Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanzaa, happy Festivus, happy Boxing Day, and happy new year. We are actually, for Jen, it’s already 2025.
[3:28] She is in a whole nother year, a whole nother dimension. So uh happy happy and uh that’s actually super super exciting so we didn’t do uh you know i guess this is our holiday show i was going to say we didn’t do our holiday show but this is it this is it right here uh it is that time of year thank you for tuning in today my name is jonathan tenham aka jt aka jay on aka sherpa winfrey the host and producer of domain sherpa where all roads lead to domains 2024 has been pretty crazy to say the least uh so uh you know this show we’re going to divert a little bit from our typical sort of domain Sherpa review. It’s not exactly a rabbit hole. This is just one of those special holiday episodes that we do. And we get to bring our friends and family on to do what we do. We’ll talk some domains, some not domains. I don’t know. I don’t know what’s going to happen. It’s kind of crazy. I don’t know what the end of 2024 is about to bring.
[4:20] But it’s our holiday spectacular with an exclamation point, bringing on our Sherpas and talking about different things in the domain space like i said some things related some things not so we’re in the middle of the grand opening i’ll intro the sherpas see what’s going on with them talk about some related things some unrelated things we’re going to skip the domain game like i said instead we’re going to talk about some topics see what the sherpas maybe want to talk about we’ve got some conferences coming up we got some good stuff happening for sure and then we’ll do a little bit of name checking a jet i actually have a decent size list today i think about 20 names because we got a bunch of people on here and we got grand closing where we’ll just chat about anything we haven’t already covered we’ll keep it pretty short because so the sherpas can go and enjoy all the new year’s festivities and all that stuff jen’s like what do you mean these are my festivities.
[5:03] Yeah happy new year yeah right like wait how did i get here this is super weird um, and with that let me go ahead and introduce the sherpas over to my right i got my homegirl jen sale aka aussie osborne aka olivia newton jen aka rockadile dundee aka dingo star aka the wonder woman from down under aka melbourne to be wild aka jen if you have to ask how much it is you can’t afford it because our stuff never goes on sale aka sipping on jenna juice aka generous I don’t know why I have that one on the list I don’t even know where that one came.
[5:38] Oh did you just pop one of those one of those champagne poppers, I don’t know if you heard that it sounded like an explosion in my house oh well, we didn’t hear it so Billy when you go into post-production you gotta throw an explosion on that you know what I’m saying so let’s make that happen alright let’s keep going let me go around the horn I’m gonna do all the intros and then we’ll just get into it So, all right, continuing, we got my boy Brayden Pollock, a.k.a. Tony Stark, a.k.a. Benjamin Button, a.k.a. Bray Love, a.k.a. Brayden Statham, a.k.a. Brayden Pollock, Tony, ex-archduke of Calabasas, now the Viscount of Woodland Hills. It’s not that your domain is worthless. It’s just that it’s worth less, bitch. What’s up, man? How you doing? Happy almost New Year. For you, it’ll be, your New Year will be later than everybody else’s. So, you know, so you got a little bit of time. Maybe I should have introduced you last Because by the time I get done with all the AKAs It’ll probably be New Year’s It’ll probably be New Year’s, I’ve got more time to hydrate and stretch for tonight There you go I like it, you got it, preparation is key Alright, continuing around the horn We got my boy Shane Culture, aka Sugar Shane aka Honey Shane, aka Mike Bro aka Blame It On The Shane aka House Of Shane aka The Blue Oyster.
[6:53] Culture aka the culture personality aka the culture club aka doing it for the culture aka and shane in the main brain aka and blockchain i can’t i’m actually reading off the list you wouldn’t know that you know you think i’m already like doing my new year’s stuff what’s up man dick clark in the background with his rocking eve and i think i can see it from here i think it says hey shane go fuck yourself dick clark that’s pretty cool he did that for you no he did that and he’s dead now so so who gets the last laugh huh dick i’m all on anderson cooper no all right hey man all good i moved over to anderson cooper that’s how old i am i watch anderson cooper on new year’s make little like snarky jokes and.
[7:35] That’s highlight of my evening we’ve entered into that phase of the programming and of our lives that anderson cooper is so funny yeah no exactly isn’t he did you see what he just did did you hear what he just said um yeah we’re actually getting out of the house for new year’s because we had said if we stay here it’s going to be me sleeping on the couch at like 10 o’clock at night while my kids are upstairs playing fortnight you know what i mean like it’s like we’ve got to go well you got to go to the real one like uh we get to decide when’s brayden even more you get to decide i’ll just do the eastern like new year’s that’ll be good if i make it till 11 o’clock that’s good i’m on the eastern one or the central let’s go into the mountain one like he gets I’m doing them all I celebrated with Jen when she had New Year’s so you know I’m just I’m doing them all that’s it every time it’s like Brandon is your New Year’s like shotgun.
[8:27] Partner you know what I’m saying it’s like he’s gonna knock them all like you gotta do X amount of shots I know you don’t drink really but like do an X amount of shots on like every New Year’s that come you know hour by hour I think it’s actually Hawaii gets to do it like 40 times.
[8:41] Every hour for a day. I love it. Well, how many time zones are there total? We, does anybody know that world piece of trivia offhand? I have no idea. I can ask chat. Let’s do it. I know I have meetings on five zones. That’s like five major. There are 24 regions, 24 time zones, which I guess makes sense. There’s 24 hours in the day, right? I mean, yeah. Considering the way the earth moves. Yeah. I’m telling you, I’m getting dumber as I get older. I forget things now. You know, we just did an escape room with my kids and I’m like, like just basic stuff. It just gets tough. It gets tougher as you get older. There’s six of us in the world.
[9:26] Exactly. Hey, your guess is good in mind. All right, let’s keep it moving. Down way at the bottom, but not at the bottom. We got the one and only making his annual appearance on the show. We got William Billy Tenenbaum, a.k.a. Billy the Kid, a.k.a. Willie Wiskins, a.k.a. Mr. Ed. Itter, like editor, you know what I’m saying? A.k.a. Captain Cut It. I don’t know. I don’t know, man. you know what i’m saying i probably should have had some better ones for you but you know you were that’s an annual tradition that you don’t there you go that should be the thing it’s like when you’re on the show it’s like no way you’re like the only one with no a.k. Um anyway what’s up dude appreciate all the help as always if nothing else i love having you on the show just to say thank you i mean i see you all the time but to be able to say thank you publicly for all the hard work and just dealing with all the nonsense that we put you through a lot of nonsense a whole lot of nonsense It is a whole lot, but Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to all the Sherpas out there that are not on this episode. Oh, okay. Okay. You know, they’re not, we’re not hyping them up too much because they’re not here. You know what I’m saying? So… If I couldn’t be here, it’s like, I got, I got love for all our Sherpas. Love for all the Sherpas. That’s good. Peace and love. And for the Sherpas into the new year, I dig it. All right. And last, certainly not. Which one, which one would you eat first? Oh yeah, seriously. And why do, I don’t know why I keep getting picked in there. That’s it’s, it’s a little unsettling.
[10:52] I pick you out of non-domain investors. I would eat like when people ask me just people in general like i don’t even i don’t even narrow it down to domain investors ed first i just like you like not even about sherpas these are conversations i have with the guy the the lady checking me out at the grocery store you know like you’re on my diner dine list like the donner pass like you are my donner guy oh man i that’s that’s that’s love right there i think or not i don’t know what that is but thanks jan for doing starting that trend that was great it’s weird enough having to answer it on the show you know what i mean and then i’m watching and i’m like wait no no they’re not gonna say me but um it’s all right it’s okay some people have chosen me as well it’s fine like at least you wanted there you go is it better for people to say hey i would eat that guy or you’d be ignored you know what i’m saying it’s like there’s a key and peel uh key and peel episode where it’s the it’s a zombie apocalypse right And I think it’s, and they’re like, all right, we got to get to the police station. We just got to get through this crowd of zombies and just don’t get bit. And they start going and none of the zombies are approaching them to the point that they just start walking. And they’re like, you know, and then they’re like, hello, hello. And they’re just ignoring them. And they come up with older zombies in a car.
[12:15] And as they approach, you know, they lock the door real quick. And they’re like, yo, that’s some bullshit. These are some racist ass zombies. You know what I’m saying? Like, you don’t want to eat me. What are you talking about? You know, it’s just like, oh, I actually literally just saw that on Instagram this morning. So anyway, you know, when he was asked, he just dismissed me. He was like, I’m afraid you’re too small. And that kind of hurt. Did I say that?
[12:37] He didn’t even consider eating me like for a second. No dude he’s like that’s like eating like grass i’m a i’m a i’m accountable man i like plenty of meat on the bone yeah that’s it man that’s it that’s what it’s you know what i mean it’s got to last like i said my pick was drew just based off of i looked at it like if we’re going cannibal style i’m just eliminating the greatest threat right off the bat you know i’m saying honey it’s like stone i think that’s what i said too it’ll make it’ll be bank tasting it was a business decision you know what i mean greatest greatest threat of what greatest threat of what like was what is he threatening you a survivor he’s a survivor it turns into a survivor kind of thing and it’s like hey there’s only one of us gonna get off the island you know what i’m saying like, i’m taking a lot of the flies yeah it goes lord of the flies there’s there’s gonna have to be like you end up even like they’ve done studies on this as well as like people like will need a leader People will need a, you know, a caregiver. People will need, like, it’s just like these, like, instinctual, like, human basic. Look, that was an accident question that I asked because I then didn’t even ask it to Brayden, who was on after, because I’m just like, that’s ridiculous. I can’t ask everyone this. Like, people are, this is going to get weird. Well, it did. So I just kept rolling with it. I think it’s awesome. I think it’s true.
[14:03] I asked you we asked you on a Sherpa episode after oh yeah and I think we should take out Drew right away yeah but then after we eat Drew then we’ll all be stoned for a while.
[14:18] That is like an ancillary benefit you know what I’m saying you’re like oh now we’re all just I think it’s different I get rid of Drew and then I feed all of you to become your leader, there you go i just take them out to get rid of the competition and then i stew them up real nice feed you a good meal and we’re good like that’s how it goes down by our moment after we all i am i am feeling a bit weird though now that i’ve got some upcoming guests to uh like sherpa sherpas like it’s like do i really ask paul nicks who are you going to eat on sherpa island like that’s getting a bit weird yeah, He’s going to be like, I don’t know who’s on the show. I never watch it. He’s going to be like, what’s Domain Sherpa? Thank you. Thank you for having me on Domain Name Wire. Anyway. Exactly. Like, thank you, Andrew Alleman.
[15:19] Anyway. I was going to ask if the GoDaddy CEO has been on Sherpa. Yeah, he’s like, I’m taking him out. Yeah, he’ll take him out first. i like that that’s good help them get you know you know that’s good all in fun all in good fun all right hey we’re not even done with the aka so let’s wrap this up last yeah last but certainly not least we got the one and only josh reason aka bjorn borg aka prince harry aka harry kane aka prince harry kane aka chicka chicka slim shady aka mr pickle what’s going on you wearing your pickleball hat is that from a tournament that y’all played in did you win like what uh where, My wife is like pickle obsessed now. And she was like, she joined a league. They gave her this hat. And I was like, I look like this hat. So. Okay.
[16:04] All right. I dig it, man. You know, I, you know, I wasn’t sure if I was going to go Christmas sweater today. I thought I’d keep it green. You know, I go with the Eagles. They’re playing some good football. We got the playoffs coming up. You, my man, Jalen hurts to get healthy and get back after it. But, you know, here, I got one question. Is Saquon going to play in the last game and go after the number? Are they going to… Did they announce it officially or you’re just saying that, Billy? I’m just saying, like, to me, there’s a big dilemma in life. Do you set an all-time record that’s really hard to achieve or do you be part of the team and rest up and get ready for the playoffs? Yeah, so to me, why they will not play him is as soon as he hit the 2,000 mark, they pulled him. They didn’t let him go for any more extra yards in that game. I mean, he ran for 160 already, you know what I’m saying?
[16:49] If they really want him to go for the record, you don’t pull him. Yeah, so young people, let’s not go into details. Will talk domains but young people watch the game and you will figure out the difference between team and individual on you know so here’s my thing about this and i think we can talk about it for 30 seconds because whatever this is the holiday show and we’re going to talk whatever we want drew’s not on here because if he was on here he’d be like freaking out you know telling us to stop talking um but for people who don’t know what’s that i have no idea what you’re talking about yeah no yeah all right so real quick for those of you another language to me i’m gonna I’m going to give you the 15 seconds, and we’re going to talk about it for 30. Oh, you’re wearing the Cowboys hat. That’s what you’re doing. I get it. So, well, who won the game last weekend? Anyway, we’re talking about American football.
[17:35] The Cowboys talk so much smack. I’m sorry. It’s just the one thing. Seven seconds, six seconds. All right, fine. So, American football, Philadelphia Eagles, their running back, Saquon Barkley, just is within sort of striking distance of the all-time single-season rushing record. He needs 100 yards in the next game, which is not easy, but he’s definitely doable. He’s been playing awesome. It’s his first year with the Eagles, and it’s super special if he can get this record. But the Eagles have already clinched their spot in the playoffs, so this game that they’re about to play, the last game of the season coming up, is irrelevant for the purposes of winning a championship.
[18:11] So it’s just a matter of, hey, we want to get – and really, when teams get to this point, they’re usually resting their best players because they would rather not risk injury, go into the playoffs healthy, give their team the best chance to win a championship. So now, this record and all this stuff, I mean, if it’s me, I don’t play them because I am literally – I’m hyper-focused on winning a championship, and it’s more about the team than it’s about the individual. But knowing that it matters as much as it does you know i think it’s a conversation that has to be had with the coach with the team owner with obviously the player maybe his agent and you know and i think missing one important part in all this offense right eight men that stand in front of them that could oh the offensive line that are like 20 million dollars and yeah they’re all yeah they make 20 million each themselves you know i think the players would be like let’s do it dude like let’s go it would be a badge of honor for the offensive line too but i think that if he gets hurt imagine the second guessing and the team’s not the same without him so i don’t know i would i would i would kind of like i said this would be a conversation around the room see what he says and if i’m a coach i’m saying what do you want to do dude you know and i think he will probably say look i’m good let’s just you know let’s get ready to roll, But then they go in and they lose in the first game of the playoffs, which is very possible. Then it’s like, oh, did you make the mistake? And, you know, so.
[19:37] No, I don’t know. Plus, the QB is already banged up. Yeah. So you think he doesn’t play? Is that what we’re thinking? 99. Yeah, I’m thinking perfect at all. All right. Oh, I think that’s the right answer.
[19:50] Derek Dickerson is the guy who owns it. And they asked him, do you want him to break the record? And he’s like, fuck no, I don’t want him to break the record. Hell no. Hell no. He’s not going to break it. And I don’t want him to. You guys you guys you’re killing my buzz and you’re killing jen’s buzz i’m out, what do you mean didn’t you see my 10 with jen you know i’m saying jen is an eagles fan this is her squad a g l e s go eagles that’s all i got out of it.
[20:16] It’s actually e a g l e s eagles but oh sorry jeez look i’m still learning gosh, gosh anyway all right enough of that uh let’s get into some domain talk um we said we’re going to skip the domain game uh if anybody had a sale or something they want to talk about it’s all good but i think there’s also a lot of interesting stuff let’s talk about 2024 in general from a domain perspective and talk a little bit about what we’re excited about for 2025 so i can say from our standpoint media options i mean we had a fantastic year our numbers were great um and we We did some enormous deals and we did a bunch of smaller deals and it was just a great year for domains. I mean, obviously, you know, the crypto, you know, the bull run that we’re kind of in this, you know, sort of sort of weird spot at the moment. Like, is it going to continue? Is it done? Like all this kind of stuff. That’s its own conversation. But 2024 is great. We expect 2025 to be very good. It’ll be interesting for sure. But what about y’all? You guys see a lot of the same. um and what are we excited about you know tomorrow and beyond like what’s good.
[21:24] I’ll, I’ll start. Like, I think one of the most important things for me in 2024 is I got my shit organized. Like I got everything. I went through every single domain, make sure it was parked where I wanted it parked, that it was priced where I wanted it priced. And it’s literally the most important thing you can do. I know it’s easily said, but I guarantee more people are not doing it than doing it. And so I did that. I really, Adam worked well for me after Nick worked well for me.
[21:53] I opened up LTOs. Kudos to Michael Seiger for maybe opening up a part of the portfolio. I wasn’t really doing much under $8,000 in LTO. I figured they can afford or not afford it. And I opened that up and bam, two of them went under LTOs. And so organization, getting my shit in order, getting things priced. When you say properly, that’s harder to say than do, but just making sure that everything is at least priced in a good range, not too low, watch what domains, try and hook up with people so you can see where there’s action and activity and make sure you price those and move those up with the times. Things are getting more expensive. Just doing all that led for me to doubling of sales of any other, well, I shouldn’t say any other year, but I really had a great year and great margins in that portfolio I’ve been building started selling. And it did help that the fiveletter.com have really gotten hot this year. I’ve sold quite a few, but I hit a five and a half percent sell-through rate and I’ve never had 3%. So I almost doubled it.
[22:57] The one question I’ll ask everybody here is my LTOs hit today, like a lot of them. So both my Adams and my Affinix hit today. If I don’t touch them and take them, is that going to roll to 2025? Yeah. Don’t take them up. I’ve got money spending an afternoon or two. Okay. Yeah. Just don’t, just don’t take the money. You can leave them there.
[23:22] No, I don’t need, yeah, I don’t need to take it. I’m just curious if it triggers the tax calendar by when you take it and pull it to the bank. No, no. When you, when you, when it hits your account, that’s when you book it. Perfect. Well, yeah. Does it matter though, if you’re on an accrual basis or a cash basis from, you know, I guess it depends on your, how you handle it from an accounting standpoint right like is that and I think that’s probably, I think that okay who’s doing accrual here probably everybody’s doing cash.
[23:52] Right not everybody you know what I’m saying but I think what, wait whoa hold on there’s a toy hold on taxes what are you talking about he’s a big Elvis fan he’s like don’t be cruel don’t be accrual, That’s like a dad joke in there somewhere. But real quick, I think you make a really good point, Shane. And we saw some benefits in our own business. I think everybody could use just, you know, housekeeping, right? We tried it when things get slow. That’s some of what we use that time for. Hey, it should slow down a bit. Let’s tighten up our pricing. Let’s make sure all of our stuff is where it needs to be. You know without a doubt when you have you know hundreds if not thousands of domain names you know pricing them properly making sure all of them are priced making sure that all the pages are actually working that you know there’s not some weird glitch going on with your you know your landers or whatever it might be um i think is obviously it’s huge you know we saw some of the same thing where just by getting our shit together and just not being as sort of sloppy you’re lazy. Um, and, uh, you know, that was, was definitely helpful. So I think that’s a, that’s, I think that’s just good advice for everybody going into the new year. It’s like, yeah, I mean, there’s so much information there now, even AFNIC added some of the old pending, uh, sales.
[25:08] I, I throw a couple on traffic just to see what kind of traffic numbers I’m getting. There’s some that I moved to parking and generate an extra $120 a month that I didn’t have and did a double lander. I would say a hundred names where the lander was on the wrong kind of after Nick lander that I didn’t have organized properly. Like I wanted on a certain type and it was sitting on the make offer where they have to go through a whole thing and fill out the information, go to a GoDaddy broker and go through that process. Some of them, maybe I don’t want to do that. So there’s just so much there and it does take some time to do. And you get, like every time we buy domains we’re buying domains daily you get the price in you just have to and a lot of us aren’t full-time people so it’s not like we have all day we’ve got to work that into our schedule so it’s an important part and i guarantee it will lead to more sales a hundred percent guarantee, housekeeping will lead to more sales in the long term that’s great advice jen what about y’all i know i’m not trying to wake you up but i feel like you know you’ve come all this way to to be at this party, you know what I’m saying? Like, you’ve come the farthest. It’s late.
[26:15] It’s very late. Not to put you on the spot, but what’s good? Yeah, we’re similar. Yeah, like, if we do see things like slowing down or whatever, I mean, one thing we’re constantly doing, we, like, also because I code, but we can develop our own proprietary tools, and I guess at the moment we’ve got about, now we’re up to about, including third-party portfolios that we manage, it’s like 25,000 to 30,000 domains under management. So I have to build stuff to automate things and be able to manage that because it’s, I mean, my own personal portfolio is like very small, like I probably only have about, under 500 names like myself so they’re easy to manage but yeah when it comes to the bigger portfolio stuff it’s really about building out these um different tools so that I can.
[27:13] Yeah not go crazy um but um and then yeah I would say like with sales and stuff this year we we definitely did and I think kind of have heard you guys say it as well like yeah more getting into like some creative deals and you know the the lease to owns are getting like quite i don’t know about you guys but you know when people are starting to you know when you’ve got equity in there and then you’ve got cash in there and then it’s spread out over x amount of time but then the broker only needs to be paid quarterly but then the seller is going to be paid it’s just yeah so that’s the kind of fun stuff we’re navigating hey at least you guys have got a jonathan i need one yeah no i feel you help me well at least you have the the skill to be able to build some me and some of the some of the tooling and stuff do you guys have anything that you’ve developed that does like pricing on names when you get like a big chunk of names to throw sort of like some kind of baseline stuff on there no i i that’s definitely something like we would love to do, but okay, we’ll get into this. I just don’t like any of the data points that are out there because that’s really what you have to pull from whenever you’re automating pricing.
[28:34] And then for us, obviously of 20,000 something domain names, there’s going to be a good portion of that, let’s say 80 to 90% that are mid to long tail.
[28:46] So on those kinds of ones, there’s always like I think for the most part sweet spots and I remember when I managed Fabulous’s portfolio for about I don’t know how long it was years um it was similar with them like once we found like a sweet spot in any of these like funnels so um you know GoDaddy or whatever you were using you always find this like little sweet spot and I remember back in the day when I had like half a million names to test it out on it was like 4 400 and something like it was it was this specific number at the time that we could like turn stock quickly through those places did you like miss out on some opportunities because you went down that route yes um but then you would also see some and you go who would pay four thousand dollars for that domain name um.
[29:45] So, yeah, I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. I’ve just been talking for too long. This is way too much talking for Janet. No, it was good. Good job. But no, I feel you. And I think that’s one of the things that, you know, pricing is a challenge for us trying to create something that’s sort of, you know, that can manage multiple names at a time to put some baseline pricing on there. You know, what are the data points that make a lot of sense? You know, and we’ve messed around with a couple of different things. And, you know, how many ccTLDs is the domain registered in? And, you know, there’s different stuff that’s like, you know, and, and, and you’ve got your own data, which is good. Um, yeah, the problem we run into, and I can say, cause Drew’s not on here is that like as much as Drew wants to automate it, he also wants to do all of it. Right. So it’s like, you know, if the system does it, it’s going to kick out a certain number. If he doesn’t agree with the number, well then the system, you know, but how do you refine it to where it’s never wrong? Right. And that’s very, very hard. So I don’t know. You can do that. Well, that’s what I mean. And Josh, you’ve helped us with pricing some stuff as well. Thank you, by the way.
[30:48] And yeah, so, you know, we’re- And it changes as well. Like Shane said, like pricing is always going to change. And when I did work at Fabulous, some insight, there was literally one guy and he was a data analyst. And all he did was sit there all day long and monitor the whole entire portfolio and pricing and trends. That was his whole job. That’s all he did. And it was always just about finding those sweet spots. And then he would carve out parts of the portfolio that weren’t going to be automatically priced or whatever. But, yeah, I mean, that’s a different scale. And it was always changing. So, like, when that, you know, pin would change from $4,400, whatever it was, eventually by the time I left there after 10 years, I think average price was closer to $6,000.
[31:41] Um of of what they were turning over and and a portfolio of that size i mean you can go and look at all of their public they were publicly listed company so they had to um report i can add into this too darpan at adam did really service to the community by showing the sale through rates based on pricing and how it really decreased from 49.95 to 5 000 they and then in various so there was a ton of incredible data. And even on the backside, they increase pricing based on IPs coming back and looking at it. So they say, hey, somebody’s been looking at a lot, they haven’t pulled the trigger. We’re going to actually see, we see a lot of people. So it shows that there’s a really, there’s a lot of information that people like the Namebrights or the TurnCommerces and the Adams, they have incredible information that if they share, really helps you pricing in a way that our portfolios aren’t large enough to get that. So you should take advantage of any of that kind of information you get. Well, you realize like data and that, you know, and the flow of, you know, there is a, it’s an art and a science. We say this all the time about domains, right? It’s an art and a science, right? So the more data that you have that’s relevant, and this kind of goes to what you were saying, Jen, is that, you know, finding the right data points is not easy. If you can, then there are definitely things that you can do that can help to lead to more sales for sure. Data is so important. And if people are willing to give great information, don’t dismiss it.
[33:10] Nobody’s smarter than anybody else. We might be better at certain things, but nobody’s better than the person that has all that information. They are the smartest people in the room. When you have hundreds of thousands of sales and you’ve changed pricing and you’ve watched pricing change and you’ve seen how it’s affected and what sells, you can never beat that. You can’t beat that. there’s no gut as we talk about them i think who was it josh and i don’t know we were talking about gut pricing versus data and sometimes you can’t beat data sometimes you can but not often, all right combination combination yeah definite combination.
[33:49] Yeah so um yeah i mean all good stuff um more great information with josh and i show on spaces We kind of expand Sherpa a little bit during the week on Wednesdays or Thursdays. Yeah, no, that I would just, I haven’t tuned in yet, but I keep meaning to. And, uh, no, Josh is, Josh is smarter than he looks. He’s got a lot of good information. That’s what I keep telling everybody. You take the camera off of me. Like, wait, you mean the pickleball guy?
[34:16] No, I’m just playing. We had some great, I mean, like. You know, uh, Michael law was great. Styler was great. We had, uh, Todd at Dynadot, I think opened up more than I’ve ever heard him open up. Like he’s talked about everything personally. So when you get a camera off people, sometimes they open up a little more when they don’t feel like Oh, a hundred percent, man. I mean, when we’re on these zoom sometimes, you know, people just naturally feel like sort of, you know, nervous or something because it’s like, you know, obviously your face and you’re just like, uh, you know, you’re looking at yourself. You’re like, do I look okay? Does my lighting okay? You know, all that stuff. You know, you start taking some of those boundaries away and it definitely you know helps people get comfortable um but no i think that’s great i think look you know domain is the kind of thing where it’s like you guys said you even have to be prepared to adjust your pricing on like not on a daily basis but on a regular basis just knowing what’s going on in the market what’s going on in the world right as ai you know has gone insane and all that stuff and just being on top of your portfolio and not having or a current event thing happens and you have a name that now all of a sudden you know might sell for more money or something like that. And even when I used to run Namejet, you know, we would watch the auctions closing. And when we were doing that on a regular basis, like you really had a kind of a feel of, you know, on the pulse, a finger on the pulse of the space. And, you know, and those are also different tranches and different buckets. And, you know, that’s the on the investor side versus the retail side. I mean, there’s just so much. And obviously, the better access to data, the better, quick, efficient access to actionable data, the better.
[35:46] And sometimes easier said and sometimes it’s just like hey you just got to pay attention and if you don’t have the time, either you can find the time or you’re going to not be as you know successful as maybe you could potentially be if you were on top of your stuff but i think another another thing is like language evolves and so we could have domains in our portfolio that we’ve had for 10 years and it has a whole different meaning now than it did when we registered it and and there’s a there’s a name that i’m selling right now i’ve already got a deposit that, has has literally a whole new meaning today i’ll talk about it when the sale’s done but it has a whole new meaning today than it than it did when i when i bought it which was early this year yeah that’s awesome yeah i mean i know what’s name and uh it’s a whole new meaning right so um which gave it a whole new value it’s awesome so that’s the trends you have to look or if like you’re my kids world you know all of a sudden skibbityriz.com is uh you know when all that bullshit like the way these kids talk or whatever it’s like all of a sudden that stuff like words that aren’t even words now have like uh or new brands and businesses you know and uh you know coming to jt jt have you heard this one uh my youngest said to me the other day i like your drip mom oh yeah yeah what oh that’s good that’s a compliment you know i’m saying he’s like i like your drip like well thank you you know you’re like i think yours is mid son.
[37:14] Um anyway it’s like a big one these days yeah well that hat is drip dog you know what i’m saying i paid that big ball hat um all you know is this fire no your drip is fire yeah all i know is the older i get the further i get away from anything close to a drip and close to cool but you know hey it’s all good um all right so well that’s what’s up um let’s see there are a couple of things i wanted to touch on as far as um well we’ve gone around the horn josh actually i don’t know that you you chimed in at all about your 2024 i mean do you have anything else to say about.
[37:49] I don’t want you to feel left out no good man i for me personally it was just pretty pretty standard other than the fact that i did way more buying this year than ever before so, that makes it that makes it a little less profitable i guess um maybe not on paper but certainly from like a mental stamp standpoint feel like doesn’t feel like the year that was that good but that’s purely because i just bought so many names so hopefully next year and the years after we’ll uh reap the reward for that but like yeah i mean you know i i’ve been pretty involved for a while um i feel like investors go through these patterns um and it’s important to kind of recognize what kind of uh you know year or what kind of a pattern that you’re in um i remember kind of like two, three years ago, um, Brayden was buying a ton of names. I helped Brayden buy a ton of names and, you know, I’m sure those years were probably pretty standard for him. And then eventually if, if you, if you’re buying the right names and you’re doing a good job in that category, uh, you know, two, three, four, five years after is when you’re going to start seeing the, uh, the reward for that. And, uh, I know that Brayden’s having a phenomenal year. So he obviously bought a lot of good names.
[39:18] It’s my, it’s my best year yet. Yeah. So, so would you, would you attribute that Brayden to, you know, the fact kind of to Josh’s point and a couple of years ago, you know, you had a year or two where you were buying, you know, you got heavier on the buy side and now you’re seeing the sort of reaping the rewards of that, having picked and bought good names at good prices. And yeah. So, I mean, I changed up my strategy in that, um, I let a lot of, you know, I had that old legal portfolio on my legal names. I let a lot of those go. I liquidated a ton of them. I have like 500 left or something, you know, from a high of like 15,000. And now my portfolio, my total portfolio is like 1,600, something like that. Oh, wow. So it’s much, much smaller, but I’ve spent, you know, millions building this portfolio, buying really good names. And so, I mean, this year, I’m pushing about 7 million in sales this year.
[40:18] So it’ll be slightly under because I’ll book a couple for, you know, after the, since it’s 31st, I’ll book some of them for tomorrow. Yeah, you won’t accept that cash just yet. So, you know, the thing is that the legal names just don’t sell that fast. And so I just switched up my strategy to buy higher end premium names and just stuff that’ll turn better. And we just had a name sell literally 10 minutes ago. You know, while we’re talking small, small name. Um, but, uh, yeah, I’m, I’m just seeing a much better self to read and a lot of names that I’m selling. I’ve purchased over the last like three years, particularly the big names.
[41:02] Yeah, well, I mean, look, I think that’s awesome. And I think that, you know, we’re at an interesting point where we, you know, the cash we make from our business, we’re either buying domains or buying Bitcoin, you know, is kind of the approach.
[41:14] And Drew kind of goes trying to, you know, as we’re trying to figure out, like, I mean, we’ve got 5,000 plus names, you know, which, you know, the top half is definitely better than the bottom half. But you know it’s um you know a lot of sales it’s just you know you got to just keep reloading the pipeline but at the same time you’re gonna end up in a situation where you know it’ll take you know you probably wouldn’t sell all those names in his lifetime right so then what do you do like you know i think it’s an interesting and we have these sort of high level conversations about you know approach and and you know and some of that also is dictated based on just his general thought on how he wants to sort of, you know, how he wants his day to go. Right. But, you know, so how much of that is going to be involved in brokering and selling and buying and all this kind of stuff. And so, yeah, so I think it’s interesting, Josh, to me, I think that, you know, we just see domains continuing to be valuable. Right. And do you guys think within, you know, AI and some of the other stuff, and we talked a lot, a lot about it in the beginning of the year, but now as we’re entering into an entire year, we’ve seen AI revolutionize a lot of stuff, but really seeing just almost more on the potential side than actual like influence side up to this point. Right. How do you guys feel about that? Like, do you feel like domains, high value premium dot com domains still, you know, up to the right concerns around some of that based on anything you’re seeing in the Internet space or telecom or any of that kind of stuff or, you know, AI.
[42:43] People that we’ve had this conversation you know cyclically for years you know the iphone came out and the and the you know things went to apps and then and then it was voice and they all of these like oh we’re concerned about the apps we’re about you know voice like all but it didn’t affect the value like the the names just continue domains continue to go up in value and and um same thing is going to happen here right so will ai affect certain categories maybe it might be a few companies you know we’ve got new gtlds that are out and and some companies might be like you know what we’ll use the we’ll use an xyz or we’ll use a dot ai and i’ve seen that but at the same time we’ve seen companies that raise a lot of money and want the dot com and eventually when they get big enough they switch to dot com yeah so i mean it’s not affecting i mean and then same time you’ve got offline companies that know they need the premium.com.
[43:45] Almost every company eventually switches the dot-com. It’s a matter of their budget. I mean, what I said means are budget driven. Well, the dot AI stuff is also interesting. You know, everybody knows where Drew stands, right? He feels like, hey, kind of the same point. Eventually they’ll come to the dot-com. The dot AIs have some value, but you know, that eventually it’s so ubiquitous that all companies will use AI to some degree. So calling it a dot AI is just redundant at that point. Um but with that said we’re still seeing tons of ai sales happening and i think we’re seeing high value sales at a you know and we say it all the time you know you can make money on the buy not on the sell on any domain right any domain that you’re going to buy so the folks that got dot ais five years ago that you know two grand three grand five grand five hundred dollars you know that kind of stuff are there still deals to be had in purchasing dot ai domains like is there There’s still value. There’s still meat on that bone because we saw, what was it? James Booth just resold. Was it girlfriend.ai? Is that the one that he just resold? Yeah. We made a couple hundred grand. No, that was someone else. That was a… Was it girlfriend or boyfriend?
[44:56] Andy sold girlfriend and then a Chinese investor sold boyfriend. Got it. Well, they were high value sales, right? I think they were like 300K. They were both in like the 200K. So, you know, so clearly good one word dot AI domains. We’re seeing it on the brokerage side. We’ve got clients that are asking for them. We’ve got clients trying to sell them. Right. You know, and, you know, some realistic, some not so much, you know, it just depends on what they’re trying to do and all that. And, you know, so it seems like there’s demand there. It seems like it’s not that it’s not that it’s interesting because it’s dot AI, though. It’s interesting that that.
[45:36] People are willing to spend like serious sums of money on other extensions outside of.com like just today you saw people.love sold for like 200 and something grand um you know people love.com probably is is like a badly developed website probably could have got acquired for like 10 grand i don’t know less who knows so like i think that what is so like dog this is this is the way that i see it and i i spend a lot of money on premium.coms this year um it’s not that it’s not that the getting your premium.com is becoming more important i think it’s actually less important than what it was um but that doesn’t mean that it’s less that they’re less valuable right they can be less important and more valuable those things are not those things don’t are not that don’t have to be parallel um so i think generally value like the value of your online presence is is going up um so you know premium.com pricing also goes up but um the rest of domain the domain world pricing is also going up so it’s not just you know premium.com it’s like obviously premium.ai is premium.ios, premium…
[46:55] Just about any good sld in a um you know decent decent tld will will will sell um relatively well.
[47:08] Um so like the way that i look at it is like in my lifetime is is.com going to continue to be the most you know is it going to continue to be completely dominant uh you know i don’t really no um probably not i kind of i kind of see it as probably not i think that other other extensions are taking some of that pie um but like i said at the same time that doesn’t necessarily mean that dot-com values go down i think that because they’re scarce and because a certain amount of companies are going to continue to find them extremely valuable the price continues to go up uh so i think that you can be i think that you can have a you can be well diversified into, multiple different tlds and and continue to find success for the foreseeable future uh that’s that’s the way that i see it yeah i do it i think that’s actually pretty awesome and i love the way you phrased and framed a lot of that because i would agree with you i think it does speak to sort of the overall value kind of the internet to begin with and and and i agree dot .AI is being valuable. These names that are sold shows the value of the internet, and your internet presence is sort of the leading piece of all of that.
[48:28] Who is the .love registry? Do you guys know offhand? I was trying to figure that out while you were talking, and I can’t. No idea. No idea. So, yeah, I mean, the .AI love right now, all of the love for .AI, is not because of the domain, not because of the TLD. it’s because of, the industry and how, uh, excited everyone is.
[48:54] It’s doing what they always wanted the TLDs to do. And that’s define the business that carries it. Right. So if you, if you’re on AI, you’re saying, look at me, I’m an AI company. And right now you couldn’t be any hotter than being an AI company. So that’s what they’re using it for. I explained it and kind of dumbed it down. Kind of what Josh says is there’s a lot of.coms that are in use and never going to be for sale.
[49:19] There’s the same amount of people or more building businesses every year. They’re just not going to get the .com. So the same amount of people are buying domains. So all those where they were going to go .com, they can’t afford, they’re going to move somewhere else. The SLDs are the most important. And now they’re just going to find a new home. What that new home is, we’re all trying to guess. What the hottest one, is it going to be this or that or .love? We don’t know, but we do know the SLDs or the keywords will probably be the most important. So that’s how we play it as domain investors. We only start with a keyword, and then we look for a TLD that complements it. And that’s a big, big open world, and there’s a lot of choices. And that’s what our decisions are on a daily basis now. We don’t have to make decisions on com. Our decision is, is that a good value of a buy, and can we sell it for that purchase? After that, we spend a lot of time deciding on, is this TLD in the sea of TLDs combined with this keyword worth having in selling. That’s what our new decisions are. There’s a lot more decisions to be made. And that’s where good conversation and good information comes looking at the sales and catching trends of what’s hot. Behind the scenes, we talk about it daily. Hey, I’ve had really good success sharing. I’ve sold 20 of these SLDs. Here’s what I’ve sold them for. Here’s how much renewals are. Renewals are a huge part, right?
[50:38] Renewables now on these other TLDs are $50, $30, you can’t play the numbers game like you did in the past. So there’s a lot of decisions to be made, but the keywords are always where we start and move from there.
[50:52] Yeah, no, I think that’s a great point. But all this dovetails a bit into, so Elliot literally posted yesterday that this year, 25% of his purchases in 2024 were actually non-coms. But with that said, they still only make up 10% or less of his overall portfolio, and he’s still very much a dot-com guy, and rightfully so.
[51:15] Um but yeah i think that i think it is interesting and i think that i i really like the way josh you know the way you were kind of framing it in that it speaks the fact that these other extensions are you know they’re big sales around this stuff speaks to the value of of you know your internet presence period and you know some of it is next best alternative some of it is exactly what you’re doing and then tying it to what shane said which is left of the dot is obviously going to drive a lot of that value regardless of right at the top com still being king so yeah so i guess we shall see but um but i’ve definitely been impressed with a lot of the ai sales to recognize or the dot ai sales recognizing that you know those domains are there people are there’s demand now whether that demand continues whether it’s sort of a bubble versus just hey this is some new normal um i think the price of everything continues to go up right and uh we see that across i mean you go to the supermarket right let alone like domain names and and other things and other services so um you know it’s definitely not cheap getting any cheaper to establish you know the proper presence online um and uh yeah so all right cool all good stuff all right once a once a tld uh establishes some sort of you know mass adoption uh have we ever seen have we ever seen the tld can become completely worthless and.
[52:37] As oh is there any other direction no is there any example of that i don’t i don’t think so i think there are a lot of tlds that were like trying to make it that you know what you know you think of like the dot ag or dot ly or those that they didn’t really establish like mass adoption like a dot io dot co dot ai but like once they once they establish significant adoption we’ve never seen them go away um so but you do see like dot io is probably taking a little little steam out of there because tech has adopted other ones besides dot io because i mean i mean i mean you’re still seeing you still see you know two hundred thousand dollar dot io sale a couple a month ago and you know plenty plenty of other six-figure dot io sales So it’s like, do they, do they, are they going to have like up and down years based on, you know, other trends? Absolutely. But if you’ve, if you’re invested in the top SLDs for .co, .net, .org, .io, .co, you’re good. Like you’re, you’re for sure good. I mean, I think all of us would agree that our first searches are com, io, co.
[53:52] Um that’s probably our an xyz right those are probably the four we put through on every one right out of the gate and then we add more accordingly would you agree with that josh braden co xyz io com.
[54:07] Yeah, net, net, not in that order, but no, not in that order net. Yeah. Net, especially net and org. Like, yeah, for me, there’s the key ones I buy is IO, co, AI, org, net, X, Y, Z. And I was going to say AI is in the conversation. I mean, we see it now. That was my fault. AI is definitely there.
[54:28] And that’s, that, that’s my point, right? I think AI is taking a bigger piece of the conversation, continues to chug along in a real positive way.
[54:35] Which I think is really, really interesting. And pretty cool you know we don’t have a ton of ais we have a handful in our own portfolio you know again helping clients on both the sell and buy side for dot ai domains and it’s not a super foreign like you know like we have clients that want the dot-com we look to see who has it hey the dot-com is not going to be gettable for less than you know maybe a multi-seven figure type of price tag right and it’s like all right what are the other alternatives it’s are you choosing a new keyword altogether if you’re married to a certain keyword now you’re looking at different alternate extensions and the ones that you’re looking at you know dot net is not really we don’t talk a whole lot about dot net you know we’re definitely ai comes up way more than dot net i do um ai ai is going to is going to absolutely crush it for the next couple years it’s going to crush it and like this i think this year is is actually not that not that big of it next year for ai is going to be much much.
[55:32] Bigger um and like i said it’s nothing to do with the fact that it’s just it’s nothing to do with like oh dot ai is a cool it’s just to do with the fact that the ai industry is absolutely booming and it hasn’t even hit its peak yet and you’re gonna see and there’s just so much money there right when you look at the number of companies that are getting funded i can’t remember what percentage of them are are ai but it’s it’s like nine out of 10 it’s like ridiculous a third one third of all dc funding and 24 went to ai companies yeah yeah.
[56:08] So yeah that’s significant that’s significant you’re gonna see you’re gonna see you’re gonna see lots of big sales you’ll uh i would i would assume that you’ll probably see a seven figure dot ai sale next year all right so that’s a there we go we’ve got a prediction for 2025 we’ve got a prediction a seven figure dot ai sale happening in 2025 all right here on there’s probably been a dot ai seven figure sale we just don’t know about yeah that’s a fair point i have i was talking about a guy whose company’s called spinach and uh he wants spinach.com uh which is mine and and uh he didn’t want to spend and i have a price at like high six figures and, He must spend that. And he bought Spanish.ai. Is he a sailor? If he continues to do well, it’s probably going to come back. Does he have very big forearms? Does he have his girlfriend named Olive Oil? You know, is he cool? Yeah.
[57:05] What’s his name? Popeye. Exactly. Thank you. The options is the industry’s leading domain broker, specializing in domain acquisitions, high value domain sales and domain name consultation. As pioneers and thought leaders on the subject of the domain aftermarket and domain name value, Plus, through their clear domain acquisition service, MediaOptions offers startups and established corporations an unparalleled scope of high-value domain options, providing access to domain names and curation technologies not available elsewhere. MediaOptions believes in the power of a great domain name and is dedicated to helping you obtain yours. Call or email today to put a domain to work for you. All right, cool. All right, well, with that, we’ve got a name-get list. We can spend about 10, 15 minutes on it, and then we’ll shut it down. We’ll talk a little bit. i want to talk about the ica and a few other things that are happening in the new year um so but real real quick you know we uh we’ve got a list this uh sponsored by name jet big shout out to them a lot of love for name jet we got some domains that are coming up for auction we’ll see really quick what the shirt was like what they don’t like oh shane always man always bringing the branding dude anybody i mean they they give the love i give it back dude they were you know they they’ve wanted to drop us a number of times but every time that but shane wore the shirt Shane wore the shirt. They’ve sponsored me for 15 years. And I don’t mind saying it, man. From day one out of the gate, I am only here because of Namejet. So I’ll wear this shirt. You gave me the shirt, ironically.
[58:28] Namejet getting a jet, baby. You know what I’m saying? I remember when we first came up with that. Everyone’s like, what is it? The difference is this arm barely fits in it because I’m on the brave workout. Protein, you know, vegan. We’re talking Popeye. We’re talking about spinach, man. Y’all looking like Popeye out here at the end of 2024.
[58:44] I have protein, baby. Oh. you know and um anyway so uh you guys get that real protein no not that fun protein stuff it’s so funny off the record right right and i actually talk about protein probably too much because we’ve been sharing like creatine brands and protein brands trying to find the right kind hey you know so well creatine is a whole you know that’s a whole different conversation and yeah but i mean And it is funny that we talked to Maine’s 20% of the time and the other 80% are like, what kind of creatine powder? Take a picture so I know what to use. And have you tried this plant protein? A buddy of mine uses it and he’s six foot, 1% body fat.
[59:29] That’s so funny. I got goals. Yeah. That’s why we’re eating your ass. It’s tender. What are you doing? That’s why we’re eating it. You don’t have any protein powder in it. He’d be like eating a Snickers. He like literally was like, I don’t want to eat JT because he’s not healthy enough. You know what I’m saying? That was basically what he said. Which is so messed up work out every day really sweet like yo i’m i still play hoops with the young kids like it’s not right i’m saying billy i think you should you should take out little snippets so like when shane said that’s why i’m not eating your ass you could take out little, yeah it could be a little bit uh you can have a field date just just like this b-roll of like just these little brings in more viewers i don’t care that’s fine hey well i will say that you You know, so look, and this is, you know, 2024 is also a very good year for Domain Sherpa, you know, largely in part to, you know, the work that Billy has done in continuing to really push it. A lot of help from a lot of the folks. Jen has always been a huge, huge help with a lot of stuff on the show. We continue to increase our numbers, our viewer numbers, like every show. I mean, we get, you know, we get thousands of views and watches and, you know, and, you know, and so we’ve got so much love for the audience. And for all the people who help continuing to serve our audience by providing good content, entertainment. We’re always trying to educate and entertain.
[1:00:54] And you guys being on the show, providing this kind of content, helping the space, and all the work that goes on behind the scenes, Billy and team, and it’s pretty awesome. So thank you to all of you for being on the show. Obviously, Billy, thank you so much. Jen, thank you so much. Always, always, always. And yeah, so anyway, not to get too far down that whole, like you know the well i’m gonna do it again i’m gonna do it again since no one else doing jonathan i think we all should like credit where credit’s due because i think this gig is pretty difficult now that i’ve had my own little taste of it um so massive respect for you guys like showing up every single week and doing this it’s like if people really knew like all of the effort and time that goes into scheduling and editing and publishing and promoting and, you know, people may be like, oh, it’s just a community podcast, but there’s a lot of time and effort that goes into it. And I know that you spearhead that and you’ve already got so much on your plate. So I think we all need to do a JT appreciation clap. Oh, go ahead. Come on. Come on. Go ahead. I’ll take it.
[1:02:04] No, but I appreciate that. And again, it would not be possible though, if you guys weren’t always willing to jump on and, you know, and help us with this and be part of this and provide the kind of content that gets people to tune in and uh people really invested they really like it and as they should because it’s uh and you know i think we genuinely all like each other you know you guys are you know a lot of expertise a lot of success here that you’re willing to share sometimes even at our own detriment which i always find super interesting but uh you know it’s uh it’s all part of it so anyway so all good stuff a lot of gratitude dude, you know, a lot of appreciation. So, all right. So real quick, we got the list. If you go to the name jet site, you can pull it up. Uh, not the name jet site. I’m sorry. Go to the domain Sherpa page for this episode. You can pull the name jet list. You’ll see all the names along with us about appraisals, how many back orders, when we recorded the show, when you need to get your back order in to make sure that you can follow the auction fully and all that good stuff. So, um, let’s, uh, kind of run through everybody talk about two, three domains, and then we’ll get to the uh the grand closing here and then we’ll get ready to move on into the new year so uh who would like to go ahead and take the first crack at the list uh i can all right well let’s pull it up uh crusader i mean that’s obvious one of course yeah.
[1:03:23] You’re going to bid on that and buy it just saying what do you think that’s going to go for on name jet too much i mean it’s it’s an awesome name right like it’s just you know it’s singular it’s a it’s a killer brand it’s super like kind of i mean you know i guess if you really want to go down a rabbit hole like oh the crusades and you know you want to go that far down but i think like you know like one of my uh my you know my older son’s about to go into high school they’re the crusaders you know at least the school that he wants to go to go on then i’m interested to hear how what you guys think it’s going to go for yeah come on i’m not i’m not done talking about what i think is a good name now this this we’ll come back to it surely this is a great topic i’d love that i’d love to know sorry i know i have a tendency to do that go ahead keep going, well you mentioned the name i want to dive into it you know let’s dive into it let’s do it jt i’ll bring it to keep talking you know i mean i think look it depends who jumps in And, you know, if we don’t get a bunch of heavy hitters that jump in, it’s going to be, you know, mid-five figures. If some of the big swing and Ds jump in, then it’s going to go low six or go over 100. So it just depends who wants to play this one. Josh, what do you think? Definitely a good name. Josh?
[1:04:45] I’ll go last. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I’ll put 50 grand in it. Like I had that on my 50 grand bid list out of the gate. And if I’m going 50 grand on it, you know that it’s definitely worth more.
[1:04:59] So, because I will admit I got, I put 250 grand cash for 2025 to put into domain names. I’ve already started looking. i bought three three letter.coms over the last couple months um just because it was a store of value and there’s some good good value i talked with brayden and josh on a couple that i was looking at but um that’s the kind of name that just doesn’t come up very often at auction right like it’s just don’t see that on namejet anymore if it makes it all the way through i’d even be surprised if it doesn’t get renewed i don’t know how far out it is my guess it doesn’t even go to auction i i bet it gets sniped before it even makes to the final so i don’t even get too excited on when i see that because of that but yeah if anybody of any importance plays that’s going for over 100 in my opinion jen uh yeah that was definitely my pick as well which i knew we’d all pick that one no i know but brayden’s not done on the names and he just what we’re asking is is how much you think it sells for it no no i know but um i don’t know yeah i i think it it will it’ll be silly i think it um even though it’s a great name and i really really like it um.
[1:06:17] I don’t know if i think it’s gonna land in between that high fives 75 ish plus possibly It will depend on who’s got their eye on it. And, I mean, look, to be honest, if you could get it in the fives, I still think that’s a good buy. That’s my opinion. Okay. All right, Josh. I kind of disagree with all of it. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. All right. So I think that if it goes for more than 35 to 40, and you’re like massively overpaying.
[1:07:09] I don’t think the stats are great, although they’re okay which is why i think that paying like 25 to 30 is probably about about right, um it’s not really developed in any tlds dot net is available dot org is available dot io is available um not good it’s yeah it’s it’s not it’s not as good as maybe first impressions would.
[1:07:39] Believe uh well that’s great does it have any tms on it at all has anyone sure i’m sure it’s got some i’m sure it’s got some tms i would so me personally i i wouldn’t pay more than 20 grand for it um but i do think that you know you get rick go maybe jumps in because he likes it and a couple of others who who jump in because they like it and yeah i mean it could it could go to, 50 grand plus um but uh in my opinion that would be that would be a massive a massive overpay that’s awesome and if you’re planning on paying that much you should contact me and i’ll help you by names that’s it well shane’s already in touch with you you know shane you guys are already on yeah i mean i think a huge point is how many are in use right like if there’s 12 other options that they can buy besides .com, it’s a killer. It’s a killer. Now, if you own all the other ones, then that’s a different story. You could go on a crusade and go buy them all up.
[1:08:42] So I will say this. It’s a very unique name in that crusader.com is much better than crusade in this particular instance. In the plural, I mean, I think it’s clearly like a brand, right? It’s an empty vessel in a lot of ways. is just waiting for his company or something to step into it. I think it’s a great name. I’m with you. I think it’s, you know, to me, I could see it in the 40 to 50 range on Namejet. Because then it’s a question of, what are you trying to get for it, right? You’re trying to get $300, $400, $500. I mean, at some point, if you’re paying, you know, you start getting up to $100K or more, and now you’re talking, you’re getting into end-user pricing territory, or where, best-case scenario, you’re going to 2, 3X maybe, you know, your purchase without knowing for sure and without having a target for it. You know, that could be sitting on that name for a long time. But it is a fantastic name. I really hope that it goes to auction.
[1:09:36] That would be i would be well and i think there’s also there’s also a little bit of something here where it’s it’s a great domain and you don’t see really great killer one word.coms that show up on the name jet list so it stands out like it’s like the tallest you know for sure there’s a lot there’s a lot of people in the space that only buy their domains at auction they will only buy their domains at auction and you don’t see good names up like this at auction very often which is why you end up seeing people pay a lot of money at auction for these domains despite the fact that you know there are better deals out there that are to be had if you you know take the time to hunt for them or uh and i think this one’s always a few weeks so i think that and the question about it being sniped i mean i don’t know you know different platforms treated differently as far as you know what they do i know that when you know the registrar is typically the the concern is that whoever is the actual registrar on is just going to renew it right that’s that’s like It’s still in that window where it’s renewable. Companies out of business. People in a really good name will reach out. Elliot will actually even reach out to a domain owner and be like, hey, your name’s on NameJet if you haven’t seen it. Elliot, no.
[1:10:47] But uh but good on the guy and then who is his public and the guy the guy’s business he’s out of business um but somebody’s gonna reach out to him but but you know i just i just looked up the stats as as josh did and the stats are not that good so the net and the order both for sale for eight grand each the io for seven grand when the net and when the com net and order aren’t in use i mean that just shows that from like a legacy perspective it’s just not a popular keyword Yeah.
[1:11:15] And I’ll have to disclose, I only was talking it up because I work for Namejet, and they told me to make it so expensive. No, man, I mean, hey, I think this is a really great discussion on this one name. That’s why I’m glad we dug in. When the net and the org aren’t developed, right, so we’re now not talking about all the new GTLDs and the CCTLDs, but we’re talking about going back 30 years, 35 years, where companies weren’t interested in that term, right? So there’s not a lot of companies. There’s a few hundred companies with that in their name. But if the ComNet or weren’t developed, that means for years, nobody really cared. So even the new Gs don’t matter. You know what I’m saying? And the IOs are for sale for $7,000, and then the others aren’t developed at all. So it’s just not a good term. On its face, it looks like a great work. Let me go back to the whole thing Shane said before when we talk about domain values into the future and how left of the dot you know obviously is going to drive the ship for a lot of you know deals and domains you know the right of the dot has to correlate obviously com being the best but then for these other alternatives but if nobody cares then it’s like yeah i think you’re right i think there might be a little bit more flash here than you know and it was uh but again i think it stands out because it’s such a great name in name you know in a collection of names that aren’t always that great which is and that’s how i spend too much at auction right there you just witnessed I said, I get excited. You got to step back and look at the information.
[1:12:42] I knew it all. We talked about, I think we talked privately the other day about, a name. And I was like, every single TLD is for sale. And they said, it’s still a great name. And I said, it is still a great name. It’s just not as great a name as everything else was taken. And this was your last choice. Well, that’s what I actually said. How many GTLDs is a domain taken in is one of those stats that we try to leverage when we’re pricing or valuing or evaluating domains. I mean, that’s one of those things that is an actual data point that you can use, you know, to pull into, and we do with some of the tooling that we have to try to figure out how you know what the demand for domain looks like you know but a lot of people look at look at how many tlds the the name is registered in and stop there and that’s just not good so crusader is registered in everything right i haven’t looked it up but i’m sure there’s a ton but they’re not developed right so what good is it if if you’ve got a whole you got if everything’s registered but not no company is developed if no company’s developed it that means that it’s just a bunch of investors that think it’s a good name but no company wants to use that in their name number one and there’s no available there’s no company that is going to upgrade to that name.
[1:13:54] Those are bad data points. It’s not good that a whole bunch of investors have registered it or the other thing is you could have the name registered in 50 or 70 TLDs and it’s all owned by one person, one company. And if that company doesn’t want your name they’re out, then who’s going to buy it? Nobody so it’s just one data point but you have to like dig down a little bit more and look at what’s actually happening with those names not just at the register yeah no i think that’s all good stuff and this is why i’m glad thank you josh for pulling this a little bit so we dug in pulled in the string some i like that and uh then that’s some great great insight all right so let’s kind of we’ll do a little bit more of a speed round through the rest but uh go ahead brayden finish up what you were thinking by way of any other names on the list um let me get back to that list um tj.net i mean i like you know i like these two letter.nets they just i don’t see anybody using them honestly i mean i i buy them and then just sit on them and look at them and enjoy owning it look nice never never sell them cool i don’t know why i feel like one day maybe companies start using two letter.nets but so far it hasn’t happened okay, one more either like or not like on one more name.
[1:15:21] I don’t like, uh, I don’t like paint it, paint it, not that great. The others are, the others are fine. I’ll let people talk about them, but nothing else. I mean, the others are decent, but it’s not the kind of names that I, I invested. So I’ll let Tim Bills talk about them. Not anymore. You know what I’m saying? Now that you got that bagging portfolio, you know what I’m saying? Like that’s it. We off that. I’m off them cheap names. Jen, what do you think? These are two more brands.
[1:15:58] Yeah, obviously Crusader. I do still like it beyond the data points. I think it would still be a good hold, but it would probably be a longer one. But just looking at Crunchbase, there’s a ton of companies called that. LinkedIn, there’s a ton of… And yeah, I know the other TLDs aren’t being used, but in my experience, there’s a possibility that those people just haven’t been pitched to, don’t understand domains so that is sometimes it is worth just doing the outbound activity to better understand um that space um i don’t mind i don’t know how you would pronounce it is it huber h-u-b-a dot com um i just had a quick look that one’s that one’s got they’ve got like their Instagram’s got over 100,000 followers, the first result on Google. They don’t go by that. They’ve got a, I don’t know what they were called, but that one seems okay.
[1:17:01] I don’t know if this is going to be a controversial one that you want to talk about or not, this topic, but I’d be interested to know what you guys think either way, if you want to keep it in or not. I don’t really like island girls. The reason why I don’t like that, I avoid girls and boys or girl or boy names unless they’re like singular, because you kind of do get into some murky waters with those types of names that I’ve experienced in the past. Yeah, well, you know, it’s funny because the Island Girls thing, I thought that too. I’m like, oh, it’s like borderline risque, I guess, you know. But then you also have the Island Boys. Remember those guys? Right, yeah. Island Boy. Yeah, yeah. You know, those guys who turned out to be pretty amazing. Who do you think is searching for island girls on the internet, Jonathan? What do you think they’re looking for? Probably island boys, you know what I’m saying? Raiden, put your hand down. You know what I’m saying? It’s like, I’m with you. That one’s a little bit like, but I mean, yes, I guess it’s. Island girl, right? Officially. You know what I’m saying? Technically. I do live on an island and, yes, I am a girl. Just an island girl trying to make it.
[1:18:26] Anyway no i’m with you it’s good stuff happy new year um all right let’s keep.
[1:18:31] All right shane or josh what do you guys jump in what’s good, go on shane let’s go um i don’t like this list as much as some in the past uh easy is a cbc the, that’s a good one um like a good one sparkling water obviously one of the biggest categories in the whole world right you just can’t get bigger than that but you can’t build a brand on a generic either like it’s not even good for marketing like sometimes you can get a name that’s generic that works well in marketing that brings you to sparkling water it just actually dumbs down your product and you know you’ve gone from like i’m super duper water with x and y and then your category is sparkling water yeah i’m liquid death right which is a perfect example of a you know bottled sparkling you know water company that actually it is right cool branding which gave it like you know gave it just a vibe and then that their sales have gone nuts and i mean there’s already you know the harvard business review type you know yeah it’s a case study in marketing of of a product and but you will have this is a perfect example someone say hey dude i got sparklingwater.com you’re like i i hate it it’s a big it’s a trillion dollar category and everything you don’t think that yeah it is but this isn’t going to help me make any money from it so yeah that’s the kind of name that i run right past um.
[1:19:56] I think Datascript is interesting just because I know that that’s a huge category as well. And it’s kind of a brandable, like if you can get that cheap enough, I think there’s some value in able to turn there. I haven’t done any research on it, but I just think that is everything. There’s nothing more valuable than data right now. Just nothing. Every conversation I have, who owns it, whoever is the voice, the holder is just, it’s huge. I had a meeting with some people from mathematics from uh in our town we have you have if you heard wolfram alpha they’re they’re a mathematics company they’re a data company but it’s math based they just have so much information and data they’re just gonna kill it like even if they’re not selling anything now i’m like you’re gonna sell plenty oh yeah no i mean look dad we’ve said for years about facebook it’s the perfect example for a situation like that where it’s like hey look Like if the service doesn’t cost you anything, you know, you’re the product, right?
[1:20:59] And, you know, so data is king. This goes back to even what we’ve said. This is a theme that has played out through just the course of this show.
[1:21:06] Talking about everything from managing pricing a portfolio to selecting a name in auction. It’s like the more data that you have, it’s a line from the Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey Jr. That I love, which is data, data, data. I can’t make jars without clay. And that is a perfect example so you know and i i think to that point there’s also value in the domain so i would agree yeah so yeah anything that anything that has something to do with that or the ability to manage that and bring it in usable form on a consumer facing front is of value um then there’s names like grill craft that mean nothing but we know that that sounds like something you would buy at home depot and bought your mother a grill craft grill that’s got 7000 christmas presents and you didn’t but hold on before you name more names together i’m with you you’re about to name more names and i want to give it to josh there’s nothing left to name everything else is junk no i’m just kidding go ahead josh is there anything else on the list that’s worth thinking about talking about i’ll do it i’ll give you another trick that has never been talked about before but okay but it’s useful so when you’re trying to assess like nsld like crusader another thing that you can do is put get in front of it or go in front of it and if it is.
[1:22:31] Available to hand register, that is a red flag that is a big red flag and if you look at your best domains um, doesn’t matter if it’s cluck or pineapple or you know whatever it might be i guarantee you that get, x or yeah go x they’re taken they’re at least taken um and if you look at crusader and look at go crusader get crusader available for hand registration it’s because there’s not enough there’s not enough demand um so there’s a little little hint um that’s the alpha right there that’s the alpha coming to you just in time for you to kill it in 2025 everybody credit to josh thank you for that um anyway so i actually i actually think this list is is super legit um compared to a lot of the lists i’ve seen in the past um i don’t like i don’t like boldly go uh.com i’m not i’m not sure about that one where no man has gone before right isn’t that like boldly go it’s more of like a qualifier right it needs more to it um but i thought paint it.
[1:23:57] I would put every i would put all the rest of the names in my portfolio i think the name that is going to be the best value buy is going to be hooba.com uh if you can get that under 15 probably a good a good purchase um, ipop is actually a good name as well uh again like usage and both of those uh are decent uh um but they don’t need to be as good as like a name like crusader because like we were talking about crusader is a standout it’s gonna go for a lot of money the the the value ratio is not right in my opinion but the value ratio for hooba is going to be better um unless it starts going up into that 20 range and at that point avoid uh so uh yeah i mean like i agree with shane, sparklingwater.com i mean it’s the kind of name that just sits in your portfolio you think it’s valuable but it’s not uh but at the same time like if you can get it for a decent price, and then you can price it uh at a decent price uh i would put it in i just probably wouldn’t spend more than like a grand on it or like 1500 and it’ll probably go for a lot more than that.
[1:25:20] Um and even then like even at a thousand dollars i wouldn’t like love having it in my portfolio because you’re just not going to get any inquiries on it it’s like one of those things that if someone’s interested in it you could probably sell it for a decent sum but you get like you’re going to get like one inquiry every five years um so yeah um i’m not that fond of wine wizard i don’t feel like wine names actually do that that well um it’s just an industry that doesn’t seem to get much adoption from like a domains domain standpoint um so but yeah you think there’s still value in i-names ipop yeah i think there’s value in ipop i mean it’s a it’s a it’s just a good vcvc as well um there’s you know just do like a little bit of research i can see that it’s not for sale in any of the major extensions uh which is nice um but at the same time it is taken in 100 tlds so that’s like already pretty solid um you type in you type in ipop into google and you can see there’s a pretty like decent amount and wide variety of end users so like.
[1:26:37] Do i like love it would i spend would i spend 20 grand on it no but if you can get it for, you know under 10 i think it’s a decent buy yeah and i think here’s the deal about ipop which i think is interesting when you google it and you realize that it also can um stand for inpatient outpatient right like there’s other things well beyond the whole eye and the fact that it’s a four character which are just killing it i mean there’s a lot of interesting stuff with that plus you’ve got you know there’s a pop industry entertainment piece to it there’s also a soda thing you know with all the new sodas that are coming out there’s all these like alternative.
[1:27:17] Versions of uh you know coke that you know healthy you know prebiotic this and that no low sugar this you know so i think that on the first page of google i get i get a company called ipop.fun, and it’s uh oh pickleball yeah inclusive place of pickleball inclusive place of pickleball that might be your joint dude like you know where is it at where’s the nearest one i pop dot fun baby you know i’m saying they’re about to upgrade they’re about to upgrade let’s go they were using pump dot fun and they were like we like this we like this tld yeah exactly right oh yeah there’s a whole lot of different stuff so i think that’s an interesting one for sure and uh but yeah and And look, I think another theme through the whole thing is you’ve mentioned now, Josh, saying that, hey, you put all these in your portfolio for the right price. And the right price being key because then it’s a matter of what’s the multiple. And that’s what we talked about a little bit with Crusader, which is, look, if it’s going to cost you $90,000 to buy Crusader.com, then how long is it going to take you to sell it for $600,000 to justify paying that kind of money? How long do you want to tie up that much cash into a domain? Ben said it. I mean, you’re going to hold it for a while. So potentially, so, um, yeah, so you make the money on this, on the buy. Um.
[1:28:34] Eventually then on the sale that’s why i also think it’s interesting you talk about brayden several years ago putting more effort into building the portfolio changing sort of the way the portfolio looks uh josh you having a big year buying domains even chain now having a big year buying domains seems to be a theme you know it seems to be 2024 is a year of loading up and uh i think that’s awesome so yeah and i’ll say this like i think that everyone here is overpaid for domains at some point um i’ve i’ve overpaid massively for some domains um and uh i think it’s all a learning curve and uh the more the more you do it the more you uh kind of like get in tune with what’s right and what’s wrong uh and the more you do it overpaying isn’t you know it’s how bad how you overpay for a name that has no value it’s one thing right but you know and how much are you overpaid right it’s like overpaying i bought it for 60 i still sold it for 600, it’s all good you know so anyway um everybody at the auction who you outbid to thought you overpaid.
[1:29:47] Exactly also also i would say that that it’s relative to to your time horizon so you might have overpaid today but in five years you hadn’t overpaid right or 10 years because everything like everything i sold for retail 10 years ago i’d buy back today that’s what i think and that’s what i think is interesting it’s like it’s hard to you know it’s not that it’s hard to lose but it’s easier to win when price keeps going up you know so it’s like um and i think that’s kind of goes back to what we were touching on early in the show about you know what is the future of domains right are they going to continue to appreciate value everything’s appreciating value um digital assets anything you know internet related like there’s continued you know the cost of a brick keeps going up price of a brick keeps going up and uh you know makes it easy to be successful if you can’t you know like idiot proof it’s some degree but it’s you know the more that you have of a pulse of what’s going on you know makes it you know easier to make better decisions i think that all kind of plays into it and part of why we try to give all the expertise to the audience that we can because you guys have i have been doing this for so long and there are very few people in the world that are at your level which is why very appreciated so with that let’s do a quick round the horn because i think we’re pretty much up on time i said this was going to be a quick show.
[1:31:09] And jen’s like you promised this was going to be quick this is a bullshit 2025 is taking forever.
[1:31:18] Um so jim let’s start with that i want to give everybody a minute or two if there’s anything you want to mention talk about um you know anything you’re excited about ica travel domains or otherwise the floor is yours, What’s up? Yeah, I am definitely excited to do some travel this year because I’m in this year, guys. Yeah, I love it. Let’s go. So, yeah, I’ll be in Vegas for ICA and then I’m going to Bali later in the year and then I’ve got a few retreats and different things. But that will be fun. um but yeah it’s just domains and somehow 10 with jen’s still going so that’s going to keep going, um but apart from that i’m just waiting for the aliens to come and like take me somewhere like i’m ready let’s go we’re going somewhere good anywhere no doubt exactly i’m all right i’m ready to go yeah what’s up beam beam me up all right no doubt all right brada what about you.
[1:32:29] Um i’m looking forward to the conferences in the day so ica and then we’re rolling right into the d3 conference uh domain uh dominion yeah they’re back to back so i’ll be in vegas for a week which i think is probably the longest i’ve ever been in vegas so we’ll see how that goes yeah good luck with that yeah i know i know vegas is it’s the energy when you get there it’s like it’s a lot, it didn’t used to be a lot when I was younger it used to be just fun, now it’s a lot sounds like you got a girl for it yeah but that’s what’s up and the ICA and then, there’s a flurry of sales happening literally there was a sale happened just now and.
[1:33:12] There might be some other deals closing today because there’s emails happening, people want to get their deals at the end of the year so you know work everybody wants to spend their profits for the year closing so good for us, that’s what’s happening happy new year it’s awesome well yeah happy new year man congratulations on a great 2024 excited for 2025 for sure jane for sure yeah so i i’ve got big things coming in 25 uh i formed botany.com i took the domain name and made it into a company and i’m going to the January, I’ll be going to garden shows across the nation. I’ll be going to ICA in Vegas. I’m coming in a little late because I’m also going to Dominion with D3. Going to talk a little blockchain and DomainFi there.
[1:34:03] Yeah, I have just as much travel this year, but yeah, I’m going to see the bulbs. Like I’m doing all the plant things and talking about plants. I’ve always wanted to go, go see the bulbs in the Netherlands when they’re in full bloom going to, yeah, I’m just literally traveling the world to see plants and flowers that I didn’t get to do. I was always selling you them and going to talk about it on social media. Just have some fun with it, doing more. I got a PBS show I’m working with them on too. So being a correspondent for PBS garden. And so I’m going to continue doing that plant stuff more actively. I got to get my cadence back though. Like I’m so used to being slow. And so I’ve got to get my voice back when it comes to gardening. But yeah, 25 is going to be domains and flowers for me. And hopefully I can do something. It’s going to take a while to build that company, but I’m going to China to go see all the products. See, that’s the other thing. I had no idea there was a four week show of companies that just lay their stuff out for everybody to look at and build. It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. But yeah, it’s going to be exciting and busy. It’s going to be fun. Did you say that show is four weeks? Four weeks. Two weeks to electronics and two weeks to home goods. And there’s like 100 million products out. And you think that your stuff’s not made there, but it’s all made there. It may have American name.
[1:35:21] The point of origin. Matter of fact, I met a company that changes. It’s a middleman. So the point of origin when you go to Shopify and all these other people, you don’t see what the true point of origin of all your product is so um but anyway that’s for another that’s for another thing but um yeah it’s gonna be it’s gonna be fun i’m i’m ready to get my green thumb and i’m ready to sell a shit ton of domains and uh have a fun exciting time this is all about having fun and making stories right that’s what it’s all about i love it man well the green thumb and domains the green is for cash you know what i’m saying so it’s the uh you You want to have that continued green thumb. I love it. All right, Billy, what about you, man? Uh also excited about ica i’ll be out there representing domain sherpa and media options helping them out the av once again so looking forward to seeing all y’all in las vegas um outside of that just plugging away like normal 2025 let’s get it all right cool josh.
[1:36:21] Yeah just uh continuing with all things domains i’m gonna be spending a lot of time on dnx which should be live in the next couple days um it’s all it’s all uh pretty much done it’s on our test site right now um and uh we’ve integrated cedo and atom um and it looks pretty looks pretty fire um it looks great i played with it yeah thanks there’s a little outtake or a little snippet looks great i played with it yeah yeah yeah so some beta users have given a little bit of feedback on it and uh just ironing out some bugs and uh yeah i know i’m pretty excited about that i’m pretty excited about some of the things that i want to do with it as the year progresses um.
[1:37:16] But yeah other than that uh same old same old thing um i had a i had a really good 2024 in a lot of ways not necessarily from a monetary perspective although you know i can’t complain uh but uh i felt better this year health-wise than i have that probably ever that i can remember um and uh just have a i have a pretty positive uh positive outlook on everything so uh hopefully that that transcends into uh into domains as well josh though is so low-key that anybody’s like he’s like yes i’m just feeling josh in 2025 i’m feeling really great it’s been an amazing year i’m excited i’m so happy to be here you know dude it’s like i love it though.
[1:38:08] No but no but i think those are all and and and look and those are great things to think about i think as i get older the thing i’m continuously reminded of is how much health matters right and it’s like you spend so much time caught up we’re online all the time we’re focusing so much on money and making money and selling this and buying that and this that and the other and you know and consuming and it’s it’s it’s overwhelming at times and you do can you know you can lose sight of some things and then stuff will happen with people around you people you care about yourself and you know those are very quick stark reminders of how fleeting time can be you know and how important health is and you know and how much and how important you know keeping an eye the people around you and just trying to help others around you too you know and i think that, You know, 2024 was a crazy year. I mean, it was a wild year in the world.
[1:38:55] And I think for a lot of us, it was more good than bad. That’s not the case for everybody. I say it on these shows when we talk about the holidays and some of that stuff, it’s always good to check in on others and make sure that those around you are, you know, within arm’s length, you know, you’re just checking in on people. Don’t take things for granted. Things change very, very quickly. You know, we’re lucky that we’ve got, you know, we’re in a business that’s doing well And we’re surrounded by good people who are having success and we’re all successful in our own right. So that’s all good.
[1:39:23] You know, and, you know, and so for me, especially when you get to the end of the year and you take a breath and you kind of reflect on all of the things, you know, I think that it’s also easy to then let the negative stuff kind of consume you as well. When, you know, and you try to take the little wins when you can get them, you know, there’s there’s also a lot of joy and good stuff out there, too. So try not to get too hung up on the negative when, you know, there is also a lot of good. So with that, you know, it’s been a, been a pretty, pretty interesting, you know, good ride this year. I’m excited for 2025. I am extremely and eternally grateful for all of you and everybody who, you know, participates on Sherpa, as I mentioned that earlier, and some of the folks that aren’t on the show today and, uh, you know, Amar and Adam and, you know, everybody else that took time and obviously drew, um, you know, and, uh, very grateful for the family and, uh, you know, And for the audience. So I’m going to close it out, like I say, in every single show. Look, without y’all, there’s no us. So we want to thank you guys for tuning in and checking in and giving us positive feedback and letting us know where things that you think we can do better. We’re always open to all of that good stuff.
[1:40:31] Although if you complain too much, we’ll just tune you out. Like I said, if somebody wants to complain enough, we’ll just send you a refund for the cost of watching the show. That’s always an option. Um and uh but but for real we want to say thank you to everybody who continues to tune in and support us and uh you know we will continue to try to entertain and educate y’all as we go, and um josh is outside just ready to soak in the sunshine he said his piece and he’s out and uh and we’ve all said our piece so we are out as well and again thank you everybody for all the blessings in 2024 looking forward to 2025 and we’ll see everybody next time here on domain Sherpa where all roads lead to domains. Happy new year, everybody. Peace out.
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